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283: Gregory Wilson - The Final Chapter, or On The Offense

Are Lovick and Apollo liars?

Gregory started it. Gregory will finish it with his final words. He is not defending himself, but rather going on the offense to prove his points with defensible "truths". I said in the beginning that "at the bottom lies the truth" of this #MagicCereal. Well, it is now up to you critical thinkers who have heard both sides with allegations and accusations with defenses and offenses.

Unfortunately, we could not coordinate a confrontational debate of the issues with Greg and any of his detractors. But included here on the blog are links to many of the documents supplied by Greg as evidence of his truth. Lots of additional information packed into these PDF links, so prepare to do a lot more reading.

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As a supplement to Gregory's comments in today's podcast, he sent me several more points that he inadvertently omitted but wanted to have on the record. Please Click Here to access those additional details.

Alan Wong was mentioned on this and in a previous podcast regarding his "Himber Passport Wallet". Click Here to read his statement of permission for Greg to use/market this effect. Also included with this statement is another endorsement from friends, Carl Andrews and Tim Trono. These statements are provided here so as not to take up any more valuable air time on the podcast and to reserve time for Gregory to address his accusers.

To get more details on the metal detector "wand" controversy, Click Here to see Gregory's explanation and a Magic Castle program that Gregory refers to in his statement.

Regarding the publications date and originality of the card move controversy between Gregory and Seth Kramer, Click Here to see: "Two sources of evidence that Seth Kramer's move is DIFFERENT than mine. One of them is from The Magic Menu and the other is from Labyrinth, that were both in print BEFORE we ever met."

John Lovick said in the podcast that on many occasions he had asked Greg for proof of where he (John) was lying or had lied in his product review. Click here to read the response that has been sitting in Greg's email outbox referred to by Greg in today's podcast.

Rob Zabrecky has an excellent lecture using important points in magic from A to Z. Greg said he had been working on the idea for many years and had the Word program to prove it. Apparently there is a difference in the "creation date" than the "modification date" and the date apparently viewed by both Rob and John was the "modification date". Click Here to see Greg's original idea.

The "Coin on Shoulder" routine that initially stirred the controversy, is still just that...controversial. Gregory says that his routine is completely different from Apollo's. Greg sent a copy of Apollo's routine as published in his booklet, "The Art of Stealing Watches" with the request that I share the PDF here. Click Here to see the PDF of that section of "The Art of Stealing Watches" that relates to Apollo's "Coin on Shoulder" routine.

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Tagged with Cosmo Solano, Apollo Robbins, Seth Kramer, Brent Geris, MagicCereal, Gregory Wilson, Alex Rangel, John Lovick.

March 31, 2016 by Scott Wells.
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277: Gregory Wilson Returns & Responds - Part One with Brad Stine

This week we have a surprise for those naysayers who thought that he wouldn't return. Gregory Wilson is this week's guest for the first of two podcasts to respond to the accusers who have presented their "proof" in episodes #270, #272 and #273.

Greg was preparing for a trip to the 2016 Blackpool convention where he will perform and lecture and he wanted to present his rebuttals before he departed. Due to his busy schedule, Greg said that he had only recently gotten around to listening to a few of the podcasts. After he returns from England, he intends to listen to episode #274 with John Lovick then respond point by point to each issue brought up by John; however, some of the issues are addressed in this podcast.

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Also on this podcast is an edited bit of a conversation I had with stand-up comic, Brad Stine, who is a long time friend of Greg's. Brad was a comedy magician and regular performer at the (now defunct) Magic Island in Newport Beach, California and has had crediting incidents with Greg. Brad wanted to present his stories in a public forum to show that Greg can, has and will give credit when shown the proof of creation.

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Tagged with Gregory Wilson, Brad Stine, MagicCereal, Cosmo Solano, John Lovick, Alex Rangel, Seth Kramer, Brent Geris, Michael Weber, Jon Racherbaumer, Apollo Robbins, Rob Zabrecky, Joel Givens, Thom Peterson.

February 18, 2016 by Scott Wells.
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274: To His Credit with John Lovick & Seth Kramer

And in this corner, weighing in with his side of the story...Handsome Jack!!

Toward the end of podcast #268 with Gregory Wilson, he levied rather serious allegations against John Lovick (a.k.a. Handsome Jack) as being "another piece of work". John posted a product review of Gregory's DVD set and pointed out several omissions of proper crediting to the creators of tricks taught on the DVD's. Since then, Gregory has (according to John) called him a "liar" and that his review was full of lies. John has made repeated requests for Gregory to submit the list of "lies" that were in the review. And, according to John, Gregory has promised on numerous occasions, both in person and in writing, that he would soon submit the list. Years have passed and the "list of lies" has never been submitted to John.

To this day, John stands by his review but has stopped "holding his breath" awaiting any such list from Gregory.

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John Lovick talks about his product review and submitted it here for all to read. The edited was 1,000 words to fit in the magazine, but the original 3,000 word review is also attached in this link. In this podcast, John goes into minute detail listing the tricks in the DVD that should have been credited.

He goes on to point out some rather obvious problems with statements made by Gregory in the podcast that seem to contradict themselves. Moreover, relevant to the discussion of "thievery in magic", a few "character flaws" are pointed out so people can watch for these traits in others before they choose to share ideas with people who might "steal your ideas" or not credit you for your work/creation.

He also expands on the confrontation among Gregory Wilson, Rob Zabrecky and John Lovick regarding the providence of the A-B-C Lecture. Rob's testimony is read into the transcript as well, basically confirming the story as stated by Apollo Robbins in his podcast episode #270.

Following John in a much shorter recording is Seth Kramer who gives us the chronology of when and where his card moves have been printed which predates the un-credited version that were published by Gregory Wilson. Although Seth sent me the documents published in the magazines mentioned in the podcast ("Apocalypse" and "Ruminations"), I chose not to link those articles as they contained explanations of secret methods.

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January 28, 2016 by Scott Wells.
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